Wednesday, April 10, 2019

Jean-Baptiste Meunier dit Lagace (père) — Voyageur Grandfather

Ponca Village on the Missouri River by Karl Bodmer


Jean-Baptiste Meunier dit Lagace (1749-1828) (père) 5th great-grandfather
son of Joseph Mignier (Meunier) Lagace (1706-1778) and Felicite Caouette (Cahouet) (1709-1783)
BIRTH 8 APR 1749 • Kamouraska (Ste-Anne-de-la-Pocatiere), Quebec, Canada
DEATH AFT. 1825 • Probably Chateauguay, Quebec, Canada
Marriage 1775 to Marie Judith Gravel Brindeliere (1757-1779)


Original notary file

(1932-33) Archives de Québec (1758-1778), p. 303


• 1778, Feb 20, Ezechiel Solomon hired Jean-Baptiste Meunier, voyageur de La Prairie-de-la-Madeleine de la Magdeleine to go to Mississippi, and spend the winter, Notary Antoine Foucher.
Overwintered: Yes
Parish: St Philippe prairie de La magdeleine
Destinations: MISSISSIPPI
Occupation: Voyageur
Functions: MILIEU
Function Notes: partir du Port de cette Ville, pour aller jusqu’au Poste du Mississipy hiverner & Limites : aider en montant comme en descendant, place de milieu de Canos, à conduire les Canots, Marchandises & Pelleteries dudit Sieur
[English]: from the Port of this City, to go to the Mississippi Post wintering & Limits: to help going up as downhill, middle place of Canos, to drive the Canoes, Goods & Furs of said Sieur
Merchant Company: Ezechiel Solomon
Wages: 450 Chelins
Contract Notes: moyennant le PRIX de quatre cens cinquante Chelins, ancien cours de la Province, qui lui seront payés par ledit Sieur Bourgeois, sitôt le retour desdits Canots au Port de cette Ville ; & sans diminution de ladite somme, avec promesse de l’équipement ordinaire aux Engagés
[English]: for the PRICE of four hundred and fifty Chelins, former course of the Province, which will be paid to him by said Sieur Bourgeois, as soon as the said Canoes return to the Port of that City; & without decrease of said sum, with promise of the ordinary equipment to Engages
Archive Source: BANQ, Greffes de notaires, Microfilm Number M620/0097




Above: actual 1778, contract between Ezechiel Solomon and voyageur Jean-Baptiste Meunier with signatures. Jean-Baptiste signed with an “X”.




Above: Transliteration of the grant made ​​by Carondelet, governor of Louisiana, to Jean Meunier, giving him the exclusivity of trade with the Poncas nation, at the mouth of the Niobrara, for a four-year period starting in 1794. Source: Before Lewis and Clark: Documents Illustrating the History of the Missouri, 1785-1804, by Abraham Phineas Nasatir, University of Oklahoma Press, 2002, 854 pages

• 1794, Jean-Baptiste Meunier and his partner, Jacques Rolland, established trading house near a village of the Ponca Indians on the Missouri River.

NOTES:

• From: Jean-Baptiste Trudeau on the upper Missouri (1794-1796), his journal

[Translation: Two years later, Jean Meunier reached the Poncas village at the mouth of the Niobrara and may be made by grant Carondelet , governor of Louisiana , the exclusivity of trade with this nation for a four-year period starting in 1794.]

[Translation: Jean-Baptiste Meunier, from Vercheres , settled in St. Louis before 1789 , the year he would have been the first white man to discover the Poncas located 400 miles upstream from Missouri. In 1794 is exclusive holder of license deals with this nation. Trudeau to meet again (see sheets 53, 55, 71 and 76 of the manuscript ) . Meunier was more engaged . In some names are spelled Menier , Monier or Munier.]




• From: French-Canadian Trappers of the American Plains and Rockies.

There were the settlers of French-Canadian origin operating in the Illinois country. They plied the Missouri River and other tributaries of the Mississippi deeper into the South, seeking additional fur-trading opportunities.  

It must also not be forgotten that there were a large number of subordinates, regular employees, from both small and large companies, as well as the self-employed, all of whom worked to assure the day-to-day operation of the fur-trading industry. 

In the last decade of the 18th century, Jacques d'Eglise, Pierre Dorion, Pierre-Antoine Tabeau, Joseph Gravelines, Jean-Baptistes Meunier, Joseph Ladéroute, and Pierre Berger were all involved in operations along the Missouri, as were literally hundreds of others during the decades that would follow. 

These are characters who have all long disappeared without a trace, except for their names written in various ledgers-the only written record left in a world where illiteracy reigned supreme.

• From: Archaeology at French colonial Cahokia, by Bonnie L. Gums 

1794 to 1809 - Jean Baptiste Meunier (Munier); a records search in the Illinois State Archives and the St. Clair County Archives failed to locate any notice of sale by Meunier after 1809. 

From:  Prologue to Lewis and Clark: The Mackay and Evans Expedition, by W. Raymond Wood
Eight years later, in 1793, the trader Jean Baptiste Meunier (or Monier) claimed that he was the first European to visit and "discover" the Ponca.  He and his partner, Jacques Rolland, nevertheless dealt with them from a trading house they established near the Ponca village.  

• From: Before Lewis and Clark: Documents Illustrating the History of the Missouri, 1785-1804, edited by Abraham Phineas Nasatir

 A letter from Meunier And Rolland to Carondelet, St. Louis, 1794.

LINEAGE:

Jean-Baptiste Meunier Lagacé (1749 - 1825) (père) — 5th great-grandfather

Jean-Baptiste Meunier dit Lagacé (fils) (1776 - 1840) — Son of Jean-Baptiste Meunier Lagacé (père)

Marie Emélie Meunier Lagacé (1808 - 1883) — Daughter of Jean-Baptiste Meunier dit Lagacé (fils)

Lucy Pinsonneau (aka Passino) (1836 - 1917) — Daughter of Marie Emélie Meunier Lagacé — 2nd great-grandmother

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